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🤖 "How to Treat PFAS"

(don't) Waste Water!

Photo by Sören Funk / Unsplash

Host: Antoine Walter
Guest: Henrik Hagemann | CEO & Co-Founder | Puraffinity
Category: 🤖 Technology

Podcast’s Essential Bites:

[10:31] “There [is the] 80/20 rule that became apparent to us. It's basically this small group of contaminants, less than 20% of stuff in water, […] messes up more than 80% of the freshwater we have available.

[15:31] “We're very far from having had a [PFAS] general awakening for the whole population. […] That kind of happened for microplastics. […] The whole planet is talking to us about whether we can remove microplastics. […] I mean, it's persistent, but it's not that toxic. Like this is a soft core thing compared to these other bad boys. And so I think, industry wise, there's definitely a massive awakening. When you see Fortune 100, companies losing billions of dollars of market cap, because of PFAS liabilities, […] it's really moving to the top of the corporate agenda.”

[23:24] “Imagine how cool it would be if we could have non virgin PFAS. We do need it for space exploration. We use it right now for vaccine manufacturing. We use PFAS to put out fires that otherwise cannot be pulled out. And so I think there will be a use for it, but we have to restrict the number of uses. We cannot use it promiscuously in everything. And for that closed loop system, we need precision capture and ideally regenerate as second face solutions.”

[29:55] “The Nordic Council of Ministers […] basically put a price tag on the cost of PFAS chemicals in the blood in Europeans. It's 84 billion euros in annual costs. That's across 740 million citizens roughly in EU. So you have actually more than $100 spent in health cost every year [per person] just for PFAS.”

[31:34] “In my opinion, the highest impact area we can install these solutions is as close to the source as possible. […] Because we're treating the symptom at the point of use or the point of entry only, I think we need to get we need to work in partnership with the people and introduce a business case for why possibly PFAS treatment is helpful. And if you can get PFAS treatment with regeneration, then it can enable the whole floor of the polymer industry to actually operate […] under [less] scrutiny.”

[57:17] “[In the water industry], we're not first adopters. We're learning from others, because we cannot afford the high development cost. So for me, those [trends] are circular economy, biotech tools […], decentralized approaches, and cloud based digitization. And what I mean by that is, how can we leapfrog other sectors? […] And the coolest trend you're going to see is pollution datasets for the sector, predictive capability with that, and inform policy.”

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🕰️ 1 hr | 🗓️ 10/27/2021
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